The cartels wouldnt be effected. They operate now without much problem. If you cant run them out of business by force of arms how you going to force them to pay a tax? And also consider the US government has no jurisdiction in the foriegn countries these cartels operate. Just wont work. Only person paying more for anything is the user.

 

Cigarretts are a controlled substance. The price of a pack of cigs back in the 80s was about $1.50. The cost to grow, manufacture and ship at the time was about 35 cents. The rest was tax. Today its $7.50+ a pack and costs less than $1.50 to make and ship. Why do you want to do this to your weed?

 

If Google is YOUR friend, ask your friend to provide a video that shows Trump claiming Hillary didn't have the look. Not some site claiming Trump said it. Show Trump saying it. Let's see how good of a friend of yours Google is.

 

Yeah, it's easy to be cynical or flippant about things, but Colorado is doing something for their people with the taxes they collect. And, no, using the money for education WOULDN'T be endorsing the use of weed by kids, that's just a dumb statement. Kids are no more likely to start using Marijuana because their schools are funded by tax money collected from the sales of it.

 

OK... guess you just don't understand how it works... If American's are buying their pot from other American's that grow it, that would mean that we no longer would be getting the pot from the cartels (and yes, I know that there will still be a black market), and if we are not getting the pot from these cartels then they would no longer be getting any money from American's buying it. I never said a word about TAXING the cartels. Not sure how you pulled that one out of your ass, but I'm sure it hurt...

 

@Anon de plume What Trumps says about Hillary, even if he was commenting on her looks, is a non issue. In the big scheme of things, Hillary is a worn out old hag. This is also very mainstream in her ideas and policies. Trump also said she is a looser. How many years of fighting ISIS and still no win. Hillary wants to continue in that same direction. So Hillary is, just by that, a looser...and she looks like a looser too. Not just physical appearance but in the continuation of following the same tried n failed policies and expecting a different result. Think: definition of insanity. Think also she couldnt get enough American donors that she went to Suadi Arabia and got money from them, for whom wont even let a woman drive a car, yet Hillary claims to champion womens rights. Yes, Hillary is a looser...and she looks like one too...not in physical appearance but as far as her record and current ideas and loyalties.

 

Did you watch the debate? Donald even said it in the first part of his response to the question. He then backpedaled and changed it to stamina...

But I'm quite certain that Lester Holt would not have brought up such a quote had The Donald NOT said it...

 

Thats naive. Wait until the advertising starts and the liberal teachers start talking "off the record" to students in class.

 

Pot has been around for centuries and "liberal teachers" have been around at least since the sixties. I doubt that any of these teachers would have to teach their students about pot. I learned about pot from my brother when I was 15. I started late, but didn't start regularly until I was in college. I doubt that any teacher would encourage their students to smoke pot anymore than they encourage them to smoke cigarettes.

 

Lmao. Well, now you have a blackmarket and legalized pot. The cartels start feeling a squeeze and what you think going to happen to these legalized growers? Is the government that couldnt tax them or force them out of business going to.protect the legal US growers from these cartels?

The "ass" thing was unnecessary by the way. It degrades and deminishes the intellectual value of our discussion.

 

I went back to college for some CADD classes about 8 years ago. My math teacher had no limits to the liberal subjects he would break into in the middle of a complicated math equation. The idea he interrupted his own teaching to suddenly go off on such non math issues, such as unions, the internet, or yes...even drug use...really amazed and anoyed me to the point we got into an arguement about it in class. Ok...he was a "college professor" definitely leftist and had no scruples about the timing of presenting his beliefs or any thought as to whether it was appropriate or not. Are there other teacher like this? Most certainly. In my high school, even though I didnt recognize it then, I certainly recognize the left leaning teachings of most my high school teachers...not to leave out a visit from the police to class telling us to snitch out our parents just like the Hitler youth programs did in WWII German schools.

Yes...they will promote pot in schools just as they do homosexuality.

 

Yea she stumbles over her own lips all the time. Which brings up another point about Hillary. Everytime we hear her talk about her and Bills finances theyre "always broke" but seem to amass millions in fortunes over night. Now obviously these two cant handle their own money...PERIOD. So just why the fugg would I dare trust them with my tax dollars and expect them to spend them wisely? Second point is that when the Clintons left the White House claiming they were broke, they destroyed the White House to the point of tearing out the wiring. Then stole hundreds of pieces of furnature and American historical property. Imagine now, with 8 years of experience behind them what theyll be able to destroy and steal now if she and Bill get the White House again. We might look one day and see nothing but an empty lot where the White House used to be. You know where youll find it though...sitting in the desert of Saudi Arabia because they had to give it to that prince that gave her all that money as payment on the debt.

 

Cigarettes ARE NOT a Controlled Substance just because they Taxed the hell out of them !! Did they teach that at TRUMP U or the FEMA Camp your at ??


@gammaray I guess you never heard of a government regulation agency known as the ATF?

It stands for Alcohol, Tobbacco and Firearms.

Yes indeed, tobbacco is a CONTROLLED substance. If you hadnt gone to a liberal educator youd have known that. Tisk tisk smmfh

 

Well, can't argue with your personal experience. And also, Pot isn't a "liberal subject". And considering that you smoke pot, it is kind of silly that you would deem it "liberal", especially when you lean right...

 

That is a misconception. Im a constitutionalist. To liberals that is the worst of the so called "right wingers". To these "right wingers" Im somebody they dont acqknowledge because the tax and war issues arent there. Most if not all taxation in the US right now isnt Constitutional. The Articles describe what taxation is supposed to be. Neither party seems to have read that portion. If you have remembered some of my.other posts...Ive also said I only support Trump by default. Not because of him being the best we had to offer but he is the best of what is left. Trump is really a democrat and a liberal from what I see. Hillary is really an extremist leftist. Neither give a shyt about the Constitution and consider the Bill of Rights more a Bill of Privledges they can tax. If its taxed it isnt a "right" anymore...its a privledge. I can give you the case law on that if you like.

 

The camoflagued form of being multiple taxed ,in different forms and languages for the same fricking thing/s,should be enough for most in this country,to realize the unconstitutionality of taxation itself.When you think about how the people united over what was it, a 2% tax on tea?,but cant united together on this issue,nor the hundreds of others we are being mandated to obey,it saddens me,deeply.

 

No matter, pot still is not a liberal topic. Maybe you can start a thread on taxes.

 

Ive yet to start any thread here. Its just not something Ive felt compelled to do. Lord knows, with 4 or 5 threads running right now on this debate there arent enough people making new threads! Lol. Ill let others do that part. If I did do a thread it would be on Constitutional law and specifically the differences between rights and priveledges. I have a fair share of case law on that now but its tedious to attempt to hand type that stuff in.